knoxcotn-digest Sunday, December 5 1999 Volume 01 : Number 016

 

 

 

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Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1999 18:56:42 -0800

From: "Billie R. McNamara" <knox@tngenweb.org>

Subject: Re: Prominent Knoxvillians

Now THAT is the best deal I've seen in months! I paid $10 for my copy 20

years ago -- grab 'em while they're cheap!

Let me give you an example of the real inflation on books in the last 20

years. East Tennessee Historical Society sold copies of Dr. J. G. M.

Ramsey's _Annals_of_Tennessee_ at a close-out price of $10 each -- about

half the regular price. Many of us grabbed a copy. One bookseller in

Nashville bought the remaining stock. Now there's a whole new generation

of genealogists who want a copy. He's selling them for over $100, and

they're as scarce as hens teeth.

 

At 12:35 PM 12/5/99 -0800, pcosta@pacbell.net wrote:

>This book is still in print and available through Amazon.com. and its

>only $11.00 plus shipping. Over 700 pages of information. Here is the

>list of biographies in the book "Heart of the Valley" (A History of

>Knoxville, TN) that was published by the East Tennessee Historical

>Society and edited by Lucille Deaderick. Wonderful book

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Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1999 19:03:12 -0800

From: "Billie R. McNamara" <knox@tngenweb.org>

Subject: Re: Knox County Families

Hi, Steve! Welcome to our list. This is two Randles we've had

today.... I just love the way the research seems to be overlapping here!

Did you know a man in Oak Ridge recently did a short history of the Henry

family in this area? I can't recall his name right off, but he deposited

copies at the McClung Collection and the Knoxville LDS FHC.

 

At 04:43 PM 12/5/99 -0500, STJASTCL@aol.com wrote:

> I'm researching the following families from the Seven Islands Community

>in South Knox County. They are as follows: Widener (Widner), Creswell,

>Johnson, Hicks, Randles, Hodge, Hodges, Bales, Huffaker, Henry and Hines.

>Some of these families also moved into the Boyds Creek area of Sevier County.

>Anyone out there researching this area of Knox County?

> Thank You,

> Steve Widener

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Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1999 19:05:36 -0800

From: "Billie R. McNamara" <knox@tngenweb.org>

Subject: Re: Brown and Collateral Families

Hi, Ann! Welcome to our list. Unless you already knew it, and that's why

you've joined us, you've got all kinds of cousins already subscribed

here. I'll be the mail has been flying this afternoon!

 

 

 

At 05:19 PM 12/5/99 -0500, Elizabeth A England-Hicks wrote:

>Hi.....

>

>I have just joined the knoxcotn site and am not really sure how this

>works, but here goes.

<snipped>

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Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1999 20:00:06 -0800

From: "Billie R. McNamara" <knox@tngenweb.org>

Subject: Re: My first post to this list.

Welcome to our list, Sue! You just scored one more for North Knox

County! And what a list of names.... Have you tried Hawkins County for

the Hales? They were quite prominent there in the 19th Century, and you'll

possibly find a connection to yours, since Knox County was formed from

Hawkins and Greene Counties.

Could you share with the list a brief description of your application for

First Families -- what it is, how to go about it, benefits, etc.? From

reading through the messages we've seen, I know we have people who qualify.

 

At 04:53 PM 12/5/99 -0600, Sue Maniez wrote:

 

>Hello to everyone,

>

>I would like to introduce myself and to let you know about my research. I

>was born and raised in Knox County, and have established my First Family

>connection. I started genealogy in April 1996 and established my first

>family connection (Cabbage) in October 1996. I was thrilled. Now I could

>probably enroll a few more, but the first one was the easiest.

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Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1999 19:57:24 -0800

From: "Sue Maniez" <smaniez@ridgenet.org> (by way of "Billie R. McNamara" <knox@tngenweb.org>)

Subject: My first post to this list.

Hello to everyone,

I would like to introduce myself and to let you know about my research. I

was born and raised in Knox County, and have established my First Family

connection. I started genealogy in April 1996 and established my first

family connection (Cabbage) in October 1996. I was thrilled. Now I could

probably enroll a few more, but the first one was the easiest.

I graduated from Central High School in 1954 and my family has lived in

Fountain City for many, many years - probably 60 or more. My husband and I

will be retiring back to that area in 2001. We are looking forward to it.

The names I am researching are: Clark, Hale, Lay, Vandergriff, Gray,

DeMarcus, Weaver, Fielden, Irick, Scalf, Caggabe, Haynes, Taylor, Adkins,

Hutchison, Harrell, Brock, Shelby, Scalf, Couts, Bolton, Williams, Burns,

James, Bailey, and more. The Clarks and Hales have been very elusive - it

seems they may have fallen out of a tree.

I can trace the Clark's to 1825 in TN with my 2nd great grandfather's

marriage to Mary Gray on December 9, 1845 in Knox County. I have traced the

Hale's to my 2nd great grandfather, Archibald circa 1801-1805.

I am familiar with Nannie Hicks' book on Fountain City, and I believe I saw

a copy of it at the Fountain City Library. When the Fountain City Park

opened, the Knoxville Journal front page carried a picture of me, my

brother, Sandy, and a friend. I would love to have a copy of that article.

Have searched for it - to no avail.

Has anyone heard of the tale that Jessie James resided in Fountain City

between his run-ins with the authorities? If so, I would love to hear more

of this rumor.

My best to each of you,

Sue Clark Maniez

Park Ridge, Illinois

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Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1999 20:08:20 -0600

From: Anne Pyle <annepyle@ipa.net>

Subject: Craig

James W Craig Sen came with his family to Knox Co around 1800. He

helped survey town lots along the Holston (now Tennessee)River.for the

town of Knoxville. Of Scotch-Irish descent, he was an elder of the

First Presbyterian Church in Knoxville, where his wife was buried in

1822.

He purchased land west of Knoxville in the Ebeneezer Community, moved on

to Cambells Station (Farragut) and Concord. He was an elder in the

Pleasant Forest Cemetery south of Campbells Station for many years. He

is buried there in that cemetery with at least three of his children and

several grandchildren One of his sons, William was a deputy, a

sherriff, then finally a clerk for the County of Knox.

Anne

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Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 00:32:07 -0800

From: "Billie R. McNamara" <knox@tngenweb.org>

Subject: Fwd: [TN] Missing CHEEK Brothers...

This was on the TNRoots list -- It might strike a chord with one of our

subscribers...

 

>I am looking for 2 brothers, who is said to have married and moved

>to Knox,Co. sometime about 1900-1910. Theese brothers are:

>

>John Bascom Cheek who was born: Nov.19,1880 in Clay,Co.NC. John is a

>twin to James Tillman Cheek. John is said to have married an

>Anna Knix, John is said to have been in Tellico Plains at some point.

>

>next is:

>

>Marion Tom Cheek who was born: Feb.--,1889 in Clay,Co.NC. and he is

>said to have married an Laura__________.

>

>Unfortunately this is all I have on theese brothers. Theese brothers

>are my gr,grandfather Burgess Franklin Cheek's brothers.

>I would like to have a 1910 and 1920 census lookup to determine if

>theese brothers were in Knox,Co.TN. or another county of TN.

>I thank you in advance for any help!!!

Debra Crowell <dcrowell@TVN.NET>

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Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 00:37:17 -0800

From: "Billie R. McNamara" <knox@tngenweb.org>

Subject: Fwd: [TN] Samuel J. Beals and Hannah Luttrell

Something else from the TNRoots list.

 

>Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 19:35:16 EST

>From: Billie Duncan <Binksdun@AOL.COM>

>Subject: [TN] Samuel J. Beals, Knox County Tn

>

>

>

><< Samuel J. Beals died in Knox Co. Tn died the 18th of April 1840 married

> Hannah Luttrell. Is anyone researching this family

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Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 00:40:06 -0800

From: "Billie R. McNamara" <knox@tngenweb.org>

Subject: Fwd: [TN] Seceeder Presbyterians

Possibly of interest to some of you.

 

>Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:59:38 -0400

>From: "David C. Montgomery" <dmontgom@CAPACCESS.ORG>

>Subject: [TN] Seceeder Presbyterians

>

>One of the following three threads may be useful to you. I am

>trying to weave them together in pursuit of my ancestor, Samuel

>Montgomery, who married M. Shook in Knox County, TN in 1797.

>First, from the DAR magazine:

> DAR v 55 p 106 (Feb 1921)

>"... I have much data about Samuel Montgomery & his w Magdalene

>Shook who came from N.C. to Blount or Knox Co. Tenn early 1800 &

>participated in the founding of the Seceeder Presbyterian Church.

>... Mrs. Reed Holloman, Santa Fe, N.M."

>[I have not been able to contact anyone associated with Mrs.

>Holloman.]

>

>The Seceeders were also called the Associate Presbyterians. In

>very brief summary, two branches of the Presbyterians, both

>having split from the Church of Scotland, had lots of roots in

>the Carolinas. Of interest to me, as below, Mecklenburg Co., NC

>was a prime source of Seceeders/Associates. Both branches were

>Scotch-Irish. They merged in 1782, to form the Associate Reformed

>Pres. The years following the merger appear to have been rather

>turbulent; not all Seceeders joined the merged organization.

>

>Second, from "Sketches of Congregations," in The Centennial

>History of the Associate Reformed Presbyterian Church, 1803-1903,

>Prepared and Published by order of the Synod; Charleston, SC,

>Presses of Walker et al., 1905. [p.568]

>"Salem, Knox Co., TN -- A considerable number of Associate

>Presbyterians settled in Blount and Knox Counties, TN, and were

>visited by Rev. Robt. Armstrong 1799. Rev. James Kennedy came

>from Ireland, 1796, and ... was ordained by the Associate

>Presbytery of Kentucky and installed pastor of Salem and

>connections, 1807, ... Passed from roll about '79 [1879]."

>

>The closest existing Salem Presbyterian Church I have found is in

>Limestone, TN (near Johnson City); but I have not asked them

>whether they are connected at all to the Salem in Knox Co.

>It seems reasonable that of the "considerable number," some would

>have come--possibly as a group--from a previous location of

>Associates. This hypothesis has led me to look at locations of

>earlier churches in that denomination; one "hot bed" was

>Mecklenburg Co., as above.

>

>The third and final thread is from the "vertical files" at

>Knoxville's McClung Collection; namely, in the Irwin folder, the

>notes make reference to "Pioneer Virginia Preachers," Vol 5, Page

>43. Under "Montgomery of North Carolina" they quoted,

>"On Nov. 9, 1773, John Montgomery, late of the Province of

>Pennsylvania, received from William Harris and ... wife ... three

>parcels of land lying in Mecklinburg Co., NC, containing all 630

>acres and on the waters of McRees Creek.

>"His will, dated Sept 13, 1795 (probated October term 1795)

>mentions his wife (name not given), four sons - Samuel, James,

>Robert, and John; and four daughters - Elizabeth Johnson, Mary

>Irving, Isabel, and Ruth ...

>"Before 1800, Samuel Montgomery moved to Knox County, TN.

>"Before 1809, John moved to Blount Co., TN."

>

>According to my other research, the father is NOT the John

>Montgomery who married Esther Houston, July 2, 1738.

>

>I'll be glad to share information. You can see more about Samuel

>on my web site.

>Dave

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>D. C. Montgomery

>Web site: www.geocities.com/Eureka/Gold/8862

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