knoxcotn-digest Monday, August 21 2000 Volume 01 : Number 127

 

 

 

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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 08:58:17 -0500

From: Richard Grimes <richgrim@swbell.net>

Subject: [KnoxCoTN] Sam Wolfe

This is my first post to this list. Am hoping that Mr. McGinnis or

others can identify the name and location of the below mentioned

cemetery and verify that Sam Wolfe is buried there. The following

paragraph is from a family book:

My grandmother, Ellen Wolfe Huston, was born in Nashville, TN. She was

the daughter of Jim Wolfe, whose father, Sam Wolfe, was a full-blooded

Cherokee Indian and a tribal chief in the Eastern Cherokee Council.

(known as Chief Lone Wolfe) At one time he owned a large plantation in

North Carolina. He was born about 1760 and died about 1844. The reason

I believe this date is close to right is that my grandmother told mother

that she was nine years old at the time and attended the burial of her

grandfather. His grave was exceedingly large as, according to their

custom they buried with him all his personal belongings and enough food

to last him on his journey to the Happy Hunting Ground. According to

Mother, he was buried some six miles out of Knoxville, TN.

Thanks In Advance,

Richard Grimes

McAllen, Texas

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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 12:49:31 -0400

From: Keith and Paula Griffin <dwec@charlotte.infi.net>

Subject: [KnoxCoTN] Kelly marriages in Knox and Grainger

I am looking for the family of Campbell Kelly, born 1841 in Knox

County. There seems to have been a Kelly family in this area very

early- does anyone know anything about them?

early Kelly marriages in Knox, Grainger, Anderson counties: (none

listed in Campbell county)

Elizabeth Kelly to David Caldwell 5-6-1794 Knox

Ann Kelley to James Beard 5-24-1794 Knox

William Kelly to Susanner Robertson 2-28-1798 Grainger

Matthew Kelly to Anny McCoy 7-8-1800 Knox

Thomas Kelly to Nancy Peters 4-11-1806 Grainger

Peggy Kelly to James Seymore 4-11-1814 Knox

Jane Kelly to Wm. Peterson 12-9-1818 Knox

Nathan Kelly to Nancy Lones 1-10-1819 Knox

Jane Kelly to Andrew Roberts 5-31-1821 Knox

Margaret Kelly to Wilson Parker 11-29-1821 Knox

Samuel Kelly to Catharine Formwalt 2-24-1822 Knox

Joseph Kelly to Polly Wolf 4-20-1825 Knox

Richard Kelly to Caroline Eliza Ann Burkhart 9-27-1832 Knox

William Kelly to Sarah Sharp 1-9-1840 Grainger

John M. Kelly to Mary Shields 7-7-1841 Grainger

Augustus Kelly to Jane Fawer 7-16-1842 Grainger

Louisa Kelly to Andrew Jackson 1-6-1843 Knox

Margaret A. Kelly to Francis Tillery 11-28-1844 Knox (no return)

Allen Kelly to Mary Farrier 3-13-1845 Grainger

Harriett Kelley to Isaac L. Davault 12-11-1845 Knox

Adam Kelly to Orlena Farrar 2-27-1848 Grainger

Eliza J. Kelly to John A. Massey 8-5-1849 Knox

Emeline Kelly to Wm. C. Peters 7-18-1851 Knox

Ann Eliza Kelly to Sterling Sharp 1-26-1852 Knox

Mary Kelly to Joseph Beeler 9-8-1852 Grainger

Calloway Kelly to Elizabeth Rutherford 7-8-1855 Knox

William John Kelly to Susan E. Acklin 10-27-1855 Knox

Charlotte Kelly to John Caldwell 11-27-1855 Knox

John Kelly to Marthena Roberts 3-18-1856 Knox

John Kelly to Josephine Paxton 6-18-1865 Grainger

Patrick Kelly to Annie Scarrner 8-11-1865 Knox

James H. Kellies to Mary Rutherford 12-11-1865 Knox

Harrett Kelley to Dannel Weaver 12-31-1870 Anderson

Mahala Kelley to Henry J. Worthington 12-19-1880 Anderson

 

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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 20:46:21 GMT

From: "Barbara Brinkley" <barb_brinkley@hotmail.com>

Subject: Re: [KnoxCoTN] Kelly marriages in Knox and Grainger

There were Beeler and Tillery brides listed here.

 

>From: Keith and Paula Griffin <dwec@charlotte.infi.net>

>Reply-To: Keith and Paula Griffin <dwec@charlotte.infi.net>

>To: KnoxCoTN@rootsquest.com

>Subject: [KnoxCoTN] Kelly marriages in Knox and Grainger

>Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 12:49:31 -0400

>

>I am looking for the family of Campbell Kelly, born 1841 in Knox

>County. There seems to have been a Kelly family in this area very

>early- does anyone know anything about them?

>

>early Kelly marriages in Knox, Grainger, Anderson counties: (none

>listed in Campbell county)

>Elizabeth Kelly to David Caldwell 5-6-1794 Knox

>Ann Kelley to James Beard 5-24-1794 Knox

>William Kelly to Susanner Robertson 2-28-1798 Grainger

>Matthew Kelly to Anny McCoy 7-8-1800 Knox

>Thomas Kelly to Nancy Peters 4-11-1806 Grainger

>Peggy Kelly to James Seymore 4-11-1814 Knox

>Jane Kelly to Wm. Peterson 12-9-1818 Knox

>Nathan Kelly to Nancy Lones 1-10-1819 Knox

>Jane Kelly to Andrew Roberts 5-31-1821 Knox

>Margaret Kelly to Wilson Parker 11-29-1821 Knox

>Samuel Kelly to Catharine Formwalt 2-24-1822 Knox

>Joseph Kelly to Polly Wolf 4-20-1825 Knox

>Richard Kelly to Caroline Eliza Ann Burkhart 9-27-1832 Knox

>William Kelly to Sarah Sharp 1-9-1840 Grainger

>John M. Kelly to Mary Shields 7-7-1841 Grainger

>Augustus Kelly to Jane Fawer 7-16-1842 Grainger

>Louisa Kelly to Andrew Jackson 1-6-1843 Knox

>Margaret A. Kelly to Francis Tillery 11-28-1844 Knox (no return)

>Allen Kelly to Mary Farrier 3-13-1845 Grainger

>Harriett Kelley to Isaac L. Davault 12-11-1845 Knox

>Adam Kelly to Orlena Farrar 2-27-1848 Grainger

>Eliza J. Kelly to John A. Massey 8-5-1849 Knox

>Emeline Kelly to Wm. C. Peters 7-18-1851 Knox

>Ann Eliza Kelly to Sterling Sharp 1-26-1852 Knox

>Mary Kelly to Joseph Beeler 9-8-1852 Grainger

>Calloway Kelly to Elizabeth Rutherford 7-8-1855 Knox

>William John Kelly to Susan E. Acklin 10-27-1855 Knox

>Charlotte Kelly to John Caldwell 11-27-1855 Knox

>John Kelly to Marthena Roberts 3-18-1856 Knox

>John Kelly to Josephine Paxton 6-18-1865 Grainger

>Patrick Kelly to Annie Scarrner 8-11-1865 Knox

>James H. Kellies to Mary Rutherford 12-11-1865 Knox

>Harrett Kelley to Dannel Weaver 12-31-1870 Anderson

>Mahala Kelley to Henry J. Worthington 12-19-1880 Anderson

>

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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 16:57:50 -0700

From: "Billie R. McNamara" <knox@tngenweb.org>

Subject: [KnoxCoTN] Giggle of the day

I found this today -- the visual humor in the last sentence just had to be

shared...

Caution to Teachers

Coats of Arms and Crests

Designing personal shields and coats of arms is fun. You should know

though, that those already in existence were granted to one person. Only

the direct descendants of that person have the right to bear that coat of

arms or crest. There is not any agency for the granting of cats of arms in

the United States.

Found at http://www.ngsgenealogy.org/about/content/committees/youth_arms.html

I sent a polite recommendation that they fix it.

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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 06:46:25 -0700

From: "Billie R. McNamara" <knox@tngenweb.org>

Subject: [KnoxCoTN] 20 Aug 2000: Sunday Afternoon Rocking

Whew! This installment really touched me. I'm the aunt Jan's talking

about here -- I have cabinets full of pictures and letters and rocks and

bricks and nails and pottery shards -- and collected memories -- and no

children. I used to wonder about once a year who would be interested in

this stuff when I'm gone...who will be the family historian that will

treasure this ephemera in the next generation? Over the years, I've

studied my nieces and nephews and tried to recognize a spark of

interest. Lately, though, I find myself wondering about it more often...

If you haven't already subscribed to Jan's distribution list, I strongly

suggest you do so. That way, you'll get your personal copy of her weekly

musings without having to wait for me to remember to send it! Instructions

are at the bottom. And, remember that Jan doesn't mind your sharing her

essays with others, as long as you keep them intact and credit her.

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"The Season of Stories" (From the Sunday Afternoon Rocking series)

Afternoon All,

I had asked questions many times before, rarely receiving involved answers,

as if the past were past and there was really not much need in rehashing

it. But wanting to know, hungry for a glimpse of a world I had not known

and far different from my own, I persisted for years, when the opportunity

arose. I learned bits and pieces.

But one day I began to talk of someone she wanted to remember...

She brought out the locket first, almost shyly showing it to me. "Jud gave

me and Hazel each one of these before he went off to the war," she said.

Jud was my great uncle who had been killed in the Great War. In 1918, my

Aunt Helen and her sister Hazel were tiny girls, and it was sometimes hard

to reconcile the picture of the two round faced youngsters in his wallet

with the ladies I had known so long as my elders. Looking at the locket, I

recognized it, and remembered the necklaces those two tiny girls dressed in

the starched white summer frocks of a long ago day wore in that photo. I

remembered how in Jud's letters home he had asked for a picture of his

nieces, and realized that this photo must have come in response to that

request. They were photographed wearing the lockets he gave them when he

said good-bye.

As if the locket had in actuality been a lock and somehow a key had been

twisted that sprang wide the doors to another long ago world, Helen now

began to bring other things to show me. Over the few days I spent with her

I saw the postcards Jud had mailed the long ago little Helen from far away

places. I saw the tiny shoes a baby Helen had worn upon her chubby feet in

1910. I saw her mother's recipe book and heard her reminisce about the

grandmother I never knew. She pointed out a dish that I had long thought

very pretty, but never thought to ask the origins of, and she told me its

story. And so in the next several days, stories began to unfold that I

doubt sincerely she had ever shared before. You see, Helen had no children.

She had but two nieces, and I was the only one of those left.

For those of us with children, and grandchildren, I believe there comes a

day when we begin to want to pass on our stories, our roots. The tremendous

responsibility we feel in raising a child, smoothing their paths, showing

them the roads we feel are most "right" carries over into another way of

giving as we age. Most of us wish to give them roots, to share with them

the past we remember and make them feel a part of it. We want them to know

those we loved before they came to us, those they never had the opportunity

of knowing. And so we tell the stories, we bring out the bits and pieces of

our family past to show, to talk about. Sometimes we are listened to,

sometimes our words are politely brushed aside, and sometimes, sadly

enough, we realize there is no one that actually wants to hear. But for

most of us who have raised a child, the day comes when we try.

And so it was I realized what was happening with my aunt. I had grown into

what she was now doing long before, but then I had the opportunity of doing

so, having grown children. It came to me as I realized her newfound

pleasure in sharing, that this was actually the first time she had had such

a chance, and actually it was probable that she had never really felt the

need to do so before. There were no children she had needed to pass roots

to, she had never felt the pressing need of a parent or grandparent to do

so. Indeed, she had been confused at my questions of the past, not

understanding where a need to know of it was coming. Somehow the locket had

changed all that, and now she wanted very much to share. Humbled, I

realized that she was noting her own mortality, and trying to give

something that would live on...but had just recognized this was possible. I

recognized the blessed role I was being asked to play in her closure upon

the past.

We are all the same I think, though some of us feel that need to link our

families in a long chain of memories before others. Some of us note our

mortality more quickly than others, and some of us feel the pressing need

to bind our children to what has gone before more quickly than others. But

we are all the same. We want to know what we have known and loved will be

treasured by who we now know and love. We want to know our parents, our

grandparents will not be forgotten, and it begins to dawn on us that when

we are gone, perhaps no one else will live who knew them as we did, or

perhaps at all. For all of us there comes a time when we wish a sense of

closure, a knowing that what we have lived was important enough to be

remembered, that who we loved was meaningful enough to be treasured by yet

another generation. And so we begin to tell the stories, to pull out items

from the past, and we are anxious that these be heard. It pains us when we

realize our descendents either have not yet had time to grow into an

appreciation of such things, or their personalities seem to be such that

perhaps they never will. And we are thrilled when we find those who will

listen, who want to listen.

I have known both. And I have learned that two things seem to make the most

difference among those I wish had ears to hear. Maturity and experience

with life and mortality, a knowing that death is no respecter of persons

and life is short is the first. And the second is parenthood, somehow

having children of one's own awakens that need for a legacy of the past to

give them. And for those who have not yet grown into the knowing, I write.

The stories I tell and the stories that have been told for me will be

there, one day whether I am or not, and they will be treasured. I want no

descendent to look back as I have, and rue not listening when the

opportunity was yet there. And I know more than a few will grow into

wanting to know. For them the stories will still be there, in the words I

wished to tell them.

We are all the same, I think. We want to bring closure, we want to give a

legacy. But we cannot force a season upon those not ready to listen. We can

only write the stories, that these may be opened when the season comes,

whether we share that season or not.

Just a thought,

jan

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