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knoxcotn-digest Saturday, January 22 2000 Volume 01 : Number 047
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 22:55:30 -0500 From: Patty Brock <rocky2@fuse.net> Subject: [KnoxCoTN] John Pack ca. 1939 Knoxville Hi list, I joined the list about a week ago and have been watching for any info on Packs. I am looking for anything on John Pack that was living in Knoxville in 1939. He would have been about 89 yrs. old. Does anyone have access to the phone book of 1939 or to old obits. I don't know when he died but if I could find out where he was I may find more about his parents which were my ggg-grandparents. I can't find out when and where they died either. There names were James and Mary Elizabeth Pack. They were living in Knox co. in 1880. That is where I lost them. I don't know where they went from there. Any help for me? Thanks, Patty Brock ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 12:16:35 -0800 From: "Billie R. McNamara" <knox@tngenweb.org> Subject: Re: [KnoxCoTN] John Pack ca. 1939 Knoxville Hi, Patty! A very few obits from before 1970 are in files at the McClung Collection in Knoxville. Old city directories are there, also, starting about 1885 (consistently) -- although the earliest one is dated about 1860. The TN death indices and certificates are available on microfilm from the TN State Library & Archives through 1949 (and also at McClung through about 1935). You'd have to look year-by-year unless you know when he died. Have you checked the 1891 head-of-household enumeration? The Knox County list has been published in book form. I believe the original film is at TSLA. The 1900 and 1910 censuses for TN are soundexed -- have you checked those for Knox County Packs? The McClung Collection also has vertical files of manuscript material on hundreds of local families. You should inquire to see if they have a Pack file. Write to them at 500 W. Church Ave., Knoxville, TN 37902. Be sure to enclose a SASE. Actually, if you've only got a quick question, it's faster and often less expensive to just call when they're open: 865-544-5744. Over time, we're hoping to develop a Knox County cemetery index on-line, with the gracious assistance of the Knox County Cemetery Historian (okay, it's not an official title, but it ought to be cuz he's a treasure!). In the meantime, though, one of the above resources might be helpful to you.
At 10:55 PM 1/21/00 -0500, Patty Brock wrote: >Hi list, >I joined the list about a week ago and have been watching for any info >on Packs. I am looking for anything on John Pack that was living in >Knoxville in 1939. He would have been about 89 yrs. old. Does anyone >have access to the phone book of 1939 or to old obits. I don't know when >he died but if I could find out where he was I may find more about his >parents which were my ggg-grandparents. I can't find out when and where >they died either. There names were James and Mary Elizabeth Pack. They >were living in Knox co. in 1880. That is where I lost them. I don't know >where they went from there. >Any help for me? >Thanks, >Patty Brock ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 12:17:53 -0800 From: Deborah <plants@planetlink.net> (by way of "Billie R. McNamara" <knox@tngenweb.org>) Subject: Re: [KnoxCoTN] Surnames Hello, I am searching, Farrington, Pittman, Simpson, Smith, Morgan, Mullinax all in this area. If anyone can help, please do so. Deborah plants@planetwide.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 12:44:15 -0800 From: "Billie R. McNamara" <knox@tngenweb.org> Subject: [KnoxCoTN] Roddy, Haston, Wheeler From another list: ================================================================== Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 05:02:41 PST From: "sherry mirkovic" <sherrylynn90@hotmail.com> Hi List, I have an ancestor named Margaret Roddy b. 28 Sep 1785 in NC who married David Haston on 5 May 1800 in Knox Co TN. One of my cousins thinks that her father was Col James Roddy and another thinks he was Col William Roddy, James' brother.I know that there was a Margaret Roddy born @ the same time as mine whose father was named James but she married a John Wheeler so my Margaret is another one. If anyone has any info on these people, please contact me.Thanks, Sherry ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 12:45:49 -0800 From: "Billie R. McNamara" <knox@tngenweb.org> Subject: [KnoxCoTN] Gillespie, McNutt From another list: ========================================================== Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 08:34:19 -0600 From: "Glenda Melson" <gmelson@webound.com> I am searching for information on one of the elders that Dr. Ramsey mentions in his book [History of Lebanon-in-the-Forks Presbyterian Church]. I have owned this book for sometime and it is one of prized possessions. I am seeking information on the ancestry of Capt. Thomas Gillespie. Dr. Ramsey says, "Capt. Thomas Gillespie was one of the early Elders of Lebanon, one of the original bench, I think; he came from Mecklenburg County, North Carolina, and his wife was a Vance, I believe, from the same county, or perhaps from Guilford County, N. C. Capt. Gillespie had participated in the Revolutionary war..." Any help will be greatly appreciated. I am a descendant of Thomas Gillespie's daughter, Margaret who married William Black McNutt and was the son of George McNutt also mention in the book. Glenda Cook Melson Lebanon, MO ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 14:06:37 -0800 From: "Billie R. McNamara" <knox@tngenweb.org> Subject: [KnoxCoTN] Prophecies Concerning 1856 This is an editorial from a December, 1855, issue of the Dandridge Herald (Jefferson County, TN) -- but it could've been published a month ago! ============================================================ In little more than one week 1855 will be numbered with the years that have been. It has been a great year for wars, blood shed, Buncombe and fine crops. Judging from what has been we may approach approximately to what will be. The general opinion is that 1856 will be a great year. If the medical Almanacs are true (and who can gainsay their correctness?) the coming year will contain 366 days -- 12 months -- each month from 29 to 31 days. The sun will rise in the east every morning and set in the west every evening without fail. The moon will occasionally shine of a night. Stars will be seen except on cloudy nights. It is also supposed that we will be favored with rain, snow and such like, except at times when there are no clouds to be seen. The days and nights will consist of twenty-four hours. The days during the summer will be longer than the nights, which difference is philosophically explained on the principle that heat expands. The earth will turn around the sun, and also turn upon its axis once every twenty-four hours. All this and more too we learn from the almanac. During the year wars and rumors of wars will make the knees of timid men smite each other and frighten old women and children. Mankind will go on pretty much as they have been since the creation -- cheating, lying, swearing, chewing tobacco, drinking whiskey, and going to the devil generally as fast as they can. [That's most of the reasons why my ancestors were kicked out of the 19th Century Baptist church!] Some will seek to hide their moral deformity under the cloak of religion, but like the ass in the fable, that put on the lion's skin, they will go a little too fast and their ears at length will protrude out and show their reality. People will die -- be buried and some go to the other side of Jordan, and some to a warmer climate. It will be a great year for political bombast and one horse political harangues. Men will run for office, some be elected and some defeated. Swell-heads and fops will be abundant and will sneer upon persons better than themselves, and search diligently after wealthy wives. Fools will be found everywhere, and known from all other men by their vanity. Humbuggery will pass for true greatness. People will subscribe for papers and never pay for them. Editors will write and fill up their columns with long and frothy articles, in lieu of general news and useful instruction. As there is an end to all things earthly -- right here is an end to our prophecy concerning the events to transpire during the coming year, and if they do not all come true, then Jonah swallowed the whale and the lions were cast into Daniel's den. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 17:49:07 -0500 From: "Kenneth Dunlap" <KDunlap@ix.netcom.com> Subject: [KnoxCoTN] Pronunciations Hi, Many of us who live across the country and are doing research on Knox Co., are missing some of the flavor of the people and places that dosen't come across in books. For instance, the first Governor of the area, Wm. Blount. His name is pronounced "BLUNT". I still have trouble with that one. For a while I read the name of John Sevier (Severe) "Sevee-ay". French right? My ancestor Devereaux GILLIAM. I would say GILLY-UM, but in Knox Co., it's GILLUM. No wonder it's often spelled Deverix Gillum or Gillam. The nearby town of MARY-VILLE? Oh, you mean MURRAVL. There are surely at least a few more... Ken Dunlap ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 18:04:36 EST From: DCMowery@aol.com Subject: [KnoxCoTN] Mary Crockett Family I'm new to the list and looking for information on Mary Crockett's family or the family of any of her children's spouses. Mary lived in Knoxville and was last in the census in 1850. Mary's children: 1.Joseph Henderson Crockett b. 7/07/823 d. 1/10/1881 m. Eliza P. White b. 10/1833 on 7/26/1851 in Columbia, TN. They lived in Knoxville. 2. Mary Belinda Crockett b. 3/05/1826 d. 6/16/1899 m. James Renshaw b. 1826 on 1/10/1850 in Knoxville. He was a business partner of Joseph's. 3. Elizabeth Jane Crockett b. 1831 m. John T. Marley on 6/07/1852 and lived in Knoxville. 4. Samuel H. Crockett b. 1833 m. Seraphinia Renshaw in Blount Co.and moved to Montana. Mary bought the former property of James White (founder of Knoxville) in 1828. There are other transactions as well as that of property to her son, Joseph, after his marriage to Eliza. Joseph died in 1881 and Eliza took their remaining children to Philadelphia to be near her son Charles who had moved there before them. Our family eventually moved back to Knoxville where I was born. Some of the above are buried in Old Gray Cemetery. My father is also buried there. He moved us to NC and returned to Knoxville after he and my mother separated. Donna Crockett Mowery ------------------------------ End of knoxcotn-digest V1 #47 ***************************** |