knoxcotn-digest Sunday, January 23 2000 Volume 01 : Number 049

 

 

 

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Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 02:17:25 -0800

From: Knox County Roots <tnknox@wdbj.net>

Subject: [KnoxCoTN] New history articles on-line with East TN info

The Knox County TNGenWeb site has added new historical essays that will be

of interest to subscribers who have interests in several area counties,

including Knox, Jefferson, Anderson, Blount, Cocke, and Hamilton:

The Gibbs Family & German Migration to East Tennessee contains several

essays that discuss the descendants of Nicholas Gibbs (including mention of

numerous contemporary families) and includes an article on the Palatine

Emigration to America:

http://www.knoxcotn.org/history/gibbs/

"Mecklenburg" is a description of the historic residence of Dr. J. G. M.

Ramsey, noted historian:

http://www.knoxcotn.org/history/mecklenburg.html

Early settlement of Knoxville is discussed in detail:

http://www.knoxcotn.org/history/debow.html

A visitor's view of Knoxville, along with a drawing of the city circa 1845:

http://www.knoxcotn.org/history/barber.html

The history of Lebanon-in-the-Forks Presbyterian Church has been enhanced

with photographs, compliments of Kenneth Dunlap:

http://www.knoxcotn.org/churches/lebanon.html

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Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 02:26:01 -0800

From: "Billie R. McNamara" <knox@tngenweb.org>

Subject: RE: [KnoxCoTN] Pronunciations

As many people remark when they've been in East Tennessee long enough to

notice, there are no one-syllable words here. There's even a joke among

many of us that you can tell the level of amazement someone's experiencing

by the number of "e" sounds in the middle of a certain four-letter word

(with no "e" in its spelling) that's a common exclamation 'round these

hyear parts....

 

At 07:50 PM 1/22/00 -0500, Greenshields wrote:

>Hey! ( southern way of greeting). But I've known some to answer the phone

>"yell-o"!

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Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 02:53:25 -0800

From: "Billie R. McNamara" <knox@tngenweb.org>

Subject: [KnoxCoTN] 23 Jan 2000: Sunday Afternoon Rocking

From: "jan" <unicorn@sun-spot.com>

Afternoon All,

I have for some time pondered the enormous amount of time and energy all of

us spend on our genealogy endeavors, and wondered a bit at the whys of it,

the wherefores of it, and how we are alike and how we are different. I have

pondered on the really rather "selfish" reasons we each and every one begin,

and how it seems to grow into something much bigger than all of us by the

end of it...and I have wondered at it, and at the tool it really is, and

WHOSE tool it really is.

Having watched folks in action in regard to the search of their family

history for a number of years...from the days in which computers were

"untold" of, and even microfilm readers a rarity and "new tools on the

block", it seems to me that there is indeed a difference in researchers of

"then" and "now", and that at all times there were different reasons for the

search, but never so much so as in these days of faster easier information

and global sharing. And it seems to me that in these days of global access,

the day is now upon us for the real reasons for it all to grow into one and

come to fruition.

I think we all enjoy the thrill of the "chase". As surely as another may

thrill to the climb of Mount Everest or swimming the English Channel, we

thrill to uncovering a lost and forgotten document, discovering a connection

that no one else has found, finding that one lost family Bible that proves

the very hunch we have been going on for years, standing at a grave site

that no one in our family has stood by for over a hundred years. And so the

thrill of the adventure of sleuthing in a very "safe" way is there for the

most of us. It has been there from the beginning of family searches and

will be there for as long as there are family searches. But there are

differences in the approach...

Some take dates and facts quite seriously, documented please, with little or

no interest in the folklore, traditions or culture of the times, and little

patience with the genealogy lists who explore the lives of the ancestors in

totality. "Just the facts, m'am" seems to be their mode of operation and

nothing wrong with that if you wish to publish a book that cannot be

disputed, or if your main idea is to gain entrance to an elite genealogy

circle of descendents that will only take that based on undisputed facts.

Nothing wrong with that if you wish to ONLY have what can be proven, and

leave unclaimed that which was never in a written record, regardless of the

likelihood. Nothing wrong with that if what you collect is only the proven.

The only drawback I have have ever seen is that quite sometimes folks of

this

mode of thinking maybe don't like to see their facts disputed, their

books "upset", and it is especially likely in this age of information and

contacts that the "facts" ARE going to be disputed. That person written off

as dying as an infant may very well turn up to have simply gone to another

place and a line did indeed descend that is not documented... YET. That

person written off as "not being from a family" because not listed as a

sibling by another may simply have been "disowned"....and somewhere down the

line someone is going to discover something no one prior to this saw or had

access to....and the facts are going to change. We live in an age when we

best be being flexible about what is "set in stone". The "stones that were

turned" when every one of them seemed to be 25 years ago, are NOT the stones

that can be turned in this day and age. And in this age of global sharing

and more and more coming on board to find their histories, it is going to

even become more likely that our "set in stone" information can change. So

careful, you "gurus", and a word of caution to the rest of us who wish to

rely upon the "gurus" as end-all and be-all, too.... know that we are now

entering an age when we cannot "write anything off"...there are yet

documents in dusty attics and cellars, yet Bibles in forgotten closets and

trunks, and yet descendents of an "unknown line" who have simply not been

interested in coming forth...yet.

Throwing up brick walls without listening, without remaining flexible,

without trying to gain the facts yet uncovered robs ourselves and others of

not just credibility, but of the growth that comes from all this...

There are those of us who learned somewhere along the way that all of us

whose lines stretch far enough back in this country are indeed related to

not one but several Revolutionary War soldiers, not one but several very

early inhabitants of the country, not one but several important

patriots.....and not one, but more than a few outlaws and folks that are not

exactly going to land us in any elite genealogy circle unless you count the

Black Sheep of America. And with this realization, and a touch of good

humor, we either focus on our patriots and "proving" those lines or we get a

bit sidetracked or maybe BOTH...depending upon who we are and what we really

thrill to and wish from all of this....

And for some of us, touching a piece of paper a ggg grandfather signed with

his own hands is more thrilling than anything else. Pouring over the tax

receipts, the farm journals, the old letters, the deeds, is more about

understanding than it is about proving. Exploring the way our ancestors

lived, slipping into their shoes and BEING who they were for a few moment in

time, as best we can from what we can learn of their times, becomes our own

reason for continuing.

And we keep growing. We see our place in history, and we see our reason for

being. We see where our thought patterns came from, and we understand what

tiny specks we are in the scheme of things, and yet paradoxically what

important links we are even as tiny specks...genealogy becomes a humbling

experience for us, and somehow as we discover cousins all over this globe we

become more and more a part of humanity in a very deeply appreciative way.

We reach out to help another find his or her history, knowing they are

embarking on the same journey of growth we have experienced and they simply

do not realize it yet. We feel their excitement at that first grasp of it,

and we smile knowingly...we remember how it was. We watch them plug away at

it for months and years and then we see them starting to share with

others...and we smile knowingly, we have been there. We see them lapse from

consistently searching their own roots, to spending much more of their time

helping others with theirs...and we smile knowingly, this is a person who

has grasped what it really is about, what we can really become from all of

this.

We grow from the thrill of first finding the names and dates, to finding

the cousins breathing the same air we breathe today, to understanding with

full realization and great humility that ALL, the good, the bad, the ugly,

are our cousins....to wanting to be a stepping stone for others...we branch

off at some point realizing that being a stepping stone for others is much

more than helping them find their family roots, and we start to practice

that as well...genuine caring for strangers becomes as much a part of our

genealogy quest as anything else. At some point we realize what it really

is all about is learning to be a tool for good folks to become better folks.

That is all, and it is an adventurous and thrilling ride to a serene

destination.

just a thought,

jan

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Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 11:54:21 -0800

From: "Billie R. McNamara" <knox@tngenweb.org>

Subject: [KnoxCoTN] Emergency from Oklahoma

Someone who subscribes to the MissouriGenWeb project forwarded this to me

because Harding is a Tennessee name (among other places, of course) -- and

tons of Tennesseans went to Missouri. But, this stone could belong ANYWHERE.

If you can identify this stone, please contact the authorities. Please

forward this to other mailing lists at will to help spread the word.

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We are in desperate need of help in returning a grave marker to its

final resting place.

The grave marker was found by the Westville, Oklahoma Police Department

several years ago and they have been unable to locate its

"owner".

It is inscribed with the following:

Mary F. Harding, wife of A.B. Harding

born on May 25, 1866, died December 1, 1896

It also has a set of praying hands on the top and a four line verse.

Down on the lower left hand corner it etched Rose Brough-St. Louis.

Contact has been made with Rose Brough, as of yet we have no

information.

The marker is in the posession of Mr. Terry Rose, phone number

(918)723-3804.

This story has been aired on radio and t.v. and the Tulsa World

newspaper ran a story in today's paper.

We are asking that you forward this message to as many people as

possible.

You may contact me at (918)254-8626.

Sincerely,

Terri Szkirpan

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