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knoxcotn-digest Wednesday, April 12 2000 Volume 01 : Number 078

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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 17:36:16 PDT

From: "Barbara Brinkley" <barb_brinkley@hotmail.com>

Subject: [KnoxCoTN] Masons in E TN

My cousins and I are seeking info on elusive Knox Co ancestors, some of whom

we believe may have been Masons. We are wondering if Masonic Lodges would

provide historical and/or membership information. Does anyone know if this

is feasible, what kind of information they have, and how I would find a

contact person among the Masons of E TN? Barbara Brown Brinkley

barb_brinkley@hotmail.com

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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:29:10 -0700

From: Patti Costa <pcosta@pacbell.net>

Subject: Re: [KnoxCoTN] Masonic records in E TN

Hi Barbara,

I forwarded your email to my cousin. Her Grandfather is a Mason and

here is her response:

The answer is 100% No...they absolutly will not provide ANY information

or even give the names of past or present members....it is a VERY

secretive brotheren.

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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 09:40:39 -0500

From: Craig & Stacie <onionring@BLomand.Net>

Subject: [KnoxCoTN] Landis > 1850's-1900's

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Good Morning ...

I am researching the Landis family...(all spellings) and have the =

following info...any other info on these families or any other landis =

families would be welcomed:

Robert Ewing LANDES (m) Belle PIERCE 1-12-1896

Wm. E. LANDES (m) Viola FULWEILER 3-24-1892

Charles E. LANDIS (m) Ida C. SMITH 11-05-1896

I am willing to share what other info I have...(see website below)

Thanks

Stacie

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Sweet Potato's Genealogy Page!

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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 12:35:46 -0500

From: "Sue Maniez" <smaniez@ridgenet.org>

Subject: [KnoxCoTN] Clark, Gray

Oh dear, I have soooo many brick walls - where should I start? Here goes -

Paternal Grandfather:

Dolph Gibson Clark [b 30 Jan 1887 TN; d 24 Apr 1946 TN]

Father: John George Clark [b 11 Sept 1847 TN; d 30 Apr 1931TN]

Father: George W. Clark [b 1825 TN]

Father: John G. Clark [b 1797]]

Mother: Ann

Mother: Mary Gray [b 1826 Canada]

I need additional information on George W. Clark. I know from my research at

McClung that a George W. Clark served in the civil war, but according to the

age records, this could not be my George. I also need the marriage

information for this George and Mary Gray. Searching for Clark's and Gray's

is akin to searching for the proverbial "needle in a haystack."

Where are these two buried, or could they still be hanging around???

Maybe my Clark's truly fell out of a tree.

One other question, is Bethany Cemetery in Knox County, and if so, is there

a list of those buried there? My grandmother was the first person to be

buried in the cemetery across the street from the church and I have many,

many more relatives in both the church cemetery and across the street. Has

anyone catalogued it?

Sue Maniez

Park Ridge, IL

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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 11:26:48 -0700

From: pcosta@pacbell.net

Subject: Re: [KnoxCoTN] Masonic records in E TN

Thanks for clearing that up,

I believe she feels this way because her Grandfather has been recently accepted

into a Masonic Home. They are in the process of transfering him now, and she

went to see where he would be living, and the guard refused to let her on the

property.

Lian Thomas wrote:

> I have to disagree 100% with your cousin on all counts. The Lodges WILL

> give certain information, provided that privacy and secrets of the Lodge are

> NOT revealed and correct permission is given. The Lodges are NOT SECRET

> organizations, although they do have some secrets, just as any fraternity or

> sorority in the Greek Organizations have their secrets.

> My suggestion is to ask for the information. At most, they will say no

> (probably because they are unsure as to how much info can/should be given).

> On the other hand, you may find more information than you ever expected!

> If you need to find the address for Grand Lodge in the state you are

> researching, contact a lodge in the area you want...for instance the Masonic

> Lodge in Knoxville. Their Lodge secretary can give you the address for

> Grand Lodge of Tennessee (they may also be online). Go from there.

> I have been able to get information on some small lodges in Kentucky all the

> way back to 1820...TRY it!

> Lian

> ----Original Message Follows----

> From: Patti Costa <pcosta@pacbell.net>

> Reply-To: Patti Costa <pcosta@pacbell.net>

> To: knoxcotn@rootsquest.com

> Subject: Re: [KnoxCoTN] Masonic records in E TN

> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:29:10 -0700

> Hi Barbara,

> I forwarded your email to my cousin. Her Grandfather is a Mason and

> here is her response:

> The answer is 100% No...they absolutly will not provide ANY information

> or even give the names of past or present members....it is a VERY

> secretive brotheren.

> ______________________________________________________

> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 13:03:17 -0700

From: pcosta@pacbell.net

Subject: Re: [KnoxCoTN] Masonic records in E TN

She was told that she needs to make an appointment. Probably because he isn't

there yet. The Mason's are known for taking care of their own, so I don't think

he will be mistreated. She just wants the best for her grandfather and wanted

to see where he would be living. The home sits on a hill, and from the main

road it looks very beautiful and well cared for.

Lian Thomas wrote:

> Seriously?! I would have a problem with that myself!!! Did she get it

> worked out? I don't think it is because he was a Mason, but for some other

> (perhaps privacy) issue. Nevertheless, drop in visits on relatives are a

> MUST whenever you have a loved one in any sort of "home". How else can you

> check to see if they are mistreated, etc.?

> I'd call the person in charge of that home in a heartbeat!

> Lian

> ----Original Message Follows----

> From: pcosta@pacbell.net

> Reply-To: pcosta@pacbell.net

> To: "knoxcotn@rootsquest.com" <knoxcotn@rootsquest.com>

> Subject: Re: [KnoxCoTN] Masonic records in E TN

> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 11:26:48 -0700

> Thanks for clearing that up,

> I believe she feels this way because her Grandfather has been recently

> accepted

> into a Masonic Home. They are in the process of transfering him now, and

> she

> went to see where he would be living, and the guard refused to let her on

> the

> property.

> Lian Thomas wrote:

> > I have to disagree 100% with your cousin on all counts. The Lodges WILL

> > give certain information, provided that privacy and secrets of the Lodge

> are

> > NOT revealed and correct permission is given. The Lodges are NOT SECRET

> > organizations, although they do have some secrets, just as any fraternity

> or

> > sorority in the Greek Organizations have their secrets.

> >

> > My suggestion is to ask for the information. At most, they will say no

> > (probably because they are unsure as to how much info can/should be

> given).

> > On the other hand, you may find more information than you ever expected!

> >

> > If you need to find the address for Grand Lodge in the state you are

> > researching, contact a lodge in the area you want...for instance the

> Masonic

> > Lodge in Knoxville. Their Lodge secretary can give you the address for

> > Grand Lodge of Tennessee (they may also be online). Go from there.

> >

> > I have been able to get information on some small lodges in Kentucky all

> the

> > way back to 1820...TRY it!

> >

> > Lian

> >

> > ----Original Message Follows----

> > From: Patti Costa <pcosta@pacbell.net>

> > Reply-To: Patti Costa <pcosta@pacbell.net>

> > To: knoxcotn@rootsquest.com

> > Subject: Re: [KnoxCoTN] Masonic records in E TN

> > Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:29:10 -0700

> >

> > Hi Barbara,

> >

> > I forwarded your email to my cousin. Her Grandfather is a Mason and

> > here is her response:

> >

> > The answer is 100% No...they absolutly will not provide ANY information

> > or even give the names of past or present members....it is a VERY

> > secretive brotheren.

> >

> > ______________________________________________________

> > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

> ______________________________________________________

> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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